Two years in residence at Zeum (now Children's Creativity Museum) in San Francisco making clay animations with children and collecting debris.

Mather Seerlo really made an evolutionary leap here, in part, because I was asked to teach digital music production and had never done it before. So I sat down and made The Singing Styles of Mather Seerlo.

Worked here with Jordan Stein who has since become a collaborator, collector, and confidant.

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